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Gamerific · Jan 07, 2016, 02:53 PM // 14:53

That's not the point. The point is that your build is not innovative or original because it has been around for years. Actually nothing really is innovative anymore at this point with the game having been out for so long. It's a solid build otherwise...

ggpwntthxbai · Jan 07, 2016, 03:22 PM // 15:22

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Originally Posted by Gamerific

That's not the point. The point is that your build is not innovative or original because it has been around for years. Actually nothing really is innovative anymore at this point with the game having been out for so long. It's a solid build otherwise...

>claims 25 is hard
>make him build to win 25
>flames me

alright then. the haters gonna hate and im just gonna innovate.

Gamerific · Jan 07, 2016, 04:41 PM // 16:41

25 is hard at this stage of the game. Still very doable but it isn't easy, regardless of how good your build is. That's my opinion. And I do win 25s (including recently) with the monk builds I have, but thanks.

Cika Radovan · Jan 10, 2016, 01:33 AM // 01:33

I can't believe ppl are actually falling for this ridicule.

Gamerific · Jan 10, 2016, 03:55 PM // 15:55

Well, it's a dead game, gotta have something to fall for right?

ggpwntthxbai · Feb 11, 2016, 02:53 AM // 02:53

bump, this build is still good and if anyone wants a good warrior build i made this one that uses daggers and its op but its a secret pm me

Wm Lee Jong · Feb 11, 2016, 11:50 AM // 11:50

bb daggers warrior still exists yet.

Smoke Nightvogue · Feb 11, 2016, 02:38 PM // 14:38

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Originally Posted by ggpwntthxbai

bump, this build is still good and if anyone wants a good warrior build i made this one that uses daggers and its op but its a secret pm me

Did I just read your mind, or something?

Once again s-o-o-o ahead of time! ^^

ggpwntthxbai · Feb 11, 2016, 03:12 PM // 15:12

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Originally Posted by Smoke Nightvogue

Did I just read your mind, or something?

Once again s-o-o-o ahead of time! ^^

umm i said to pm me about it. if you're going to post my build publicly you should probably get permission first.

here's one for all the doubters in this thread who don't think my build works

bottlew · Feb 18, 2016, 03:13 PM // 15:13

That is actually a really bad build in todays guild wars. Back in the day this build skill for skill literally was used and worked fine. It's not new or innovative it's widely known and accepted nearly every profession can utilize and manage to use most shadow art abilities with a wide range of success.

This build is extremely bad because you will OOM red baring your team against eles. This is a fact. You have zero prots and eles can consistently cast. As soon as you pop dark escape a good elementalist will just train your lower armor targets or line back your damage potential (warriors, eles, rangers) with lsurge, blinds or spam mind burn.

You could argue the same that your target could switch from a protted target; however, the difference between dark escape and your prot potential is clearly the prots can be used on other targets but also mind you if you are a good monk you will be itemized correctly / runed properly. Meaning you will already be taking less damage than your allies, so prots are essential for your allies.

Why? Because prots give your allies the confidence to go in more aggressively knowing they will not die or in the event they are trained you should reasonably be able to save them due to prot on them. You should always assume when playing a monk your equipment/gear is going to be better than your allies because the majority of people in RA like back in the day run 60 armor. You will lose very fast if this is the case with zero prots. And even if they did itemize correctly if they end up Kd'd while in a 40/40 set they will essential still have 60 armor since you cannot really reasonably expect most professions to have more than 70 armor in a caster set or more than 60 armor while suffering from cracked armor.

I also would like to know how you handle vs bot rangers. Gaurdian / stances are essential vs good rangers / bot rangers. You're going to cancel cast? Vs a bot? No, I really don't think so. If they waste their bot rupts on your guardian you still have woh / patient. Though we're not only talking about rangers rupting you. Your allies could be being rupted and your DPS dramatically decreases across your team, so your team is taking pressure while their team is relieved of pressure.

But not only in circumstances of rangers for instance let's assume augie the hammer warrior is line backing your team. You provide absolute zero counter to that situation except you're reasonably expecting your allies to handle that. You're operating under the assumption your allies have GG builds / gear in order to rise to these challenges when that is not what RA is all about as we all know.

I really don't see a situation where you get to 25 wins. Put simply eles will destroy this build, rangers easily destroy your build, warriors easily destroy your dps potential. I'm really trying to figure out what this build does in todays gw? When eles didn't do stupid damage it could have been widely used bar. When dervs weren't OP this build worked. But this build sucks and I hate to be mean but it's honestly a slap in the face to monks who actually foresee these situations and would never load or use that bar unless they wanted to have fun but I didn't know losing was fun.

(tl;dr) this build doesn't work unless your team carries you or deals with rupts, linebacks and still somehow manages to win.

Rushin Roulette · Feb 18, 2016, 03:42 PM // 15:42

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Originally Posted by ggpwntthxbai

umm i said to pm me about it. if you're going to post my build publicly you should probably get permission first.

here's one for all the doubters in this thread who don't think my build works

Ill give that a 1/10 for trolling... yawn... especially as you claim a linked build to be an original of yours where the history is easy to check up on

http://gwpvx.gamepedia.com/index.php...action=history

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First started on log 21:08, 28 February 2010‎
last change on 05:33, 26 June 2014‎

ggpwntthxbai · Feb 19, 2016, 01:04 AM // 01:04

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Originally Posted by bottlew

I really don't see a situation where you get to 25 wins.

how bout the ones i posted? xD

Motoko · Mar 02, 2016, 06:16 PM // 18:16

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Originally Posted by ggpwntthxbai

umm i said to pm me about it. if you're going to post my build publicly you should probably get permission first.

here's one for all the doubters in this thread who don't think my build works

http://puu.sh/n4TL4/beaba2f9ee.jpg

Picture of the party box clearly shows 6 man team.

This must be a picture of a halls win back when it was 6v6.

Clearly an outdated picture from the future.

Almost got us.

N O V E · Mar 03, 2016, 03:31 PM // 15:31

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Originally Posted by Motoko

Picture of the party box clearly shows 6 man team.

This must be a picture of a halls win back when it was 6v6.

Clearly an outdated picture from the future.

Almost got us.

@Motoko, there was a pet in the team.

For the build.... meh, I am sure that this build works, I am sure that you can do 25 wins with it, but as everyone else already stated : this build is not innovative and is not new.

ggpwntthxbai · Mar 05, 2016, 01:17 AM // 01:17

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Originally Posted by Motoko

Picture of the party box clearly shows 6 man team.

This must be a picture of a halls win back when it was 6v6.

Clearly an outdated picture from the future.

Almost got us.

*** rly didn't think any1 would figure it out xD